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Ryan Holiday22 April 2025

Ryan Holiday: How Stoicism Transforms Leadership and Decision-Making in Business

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster25:30

Stoicism Does Not Require You to Stop Feeling

Ryan rejects the popular equation of Stoicism with emotionlessness. Stoics still experience the full range of emotion; the practical aim is to stop emotion from blinding judgment during difficult choices.

  • Stoicism does not eliminate love, excitement, fear, or other emotions
  • Emotional states can obscure what is actually happening
  • A temporary pause helps restore objective judgment
  • The distinction matters most during tough decisions

when people hear the word stoic, they often think emotionlessness. I don't think that's what it is.

Ryan Holiday · 25:30

they still have the full spectrum of human emotions. They just try not to be blinded by those emotions.

Ryan Holiday · 26:00
#emotions#stoicism#decisions

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take37:30

Egotistical Leaders Are Easier to Manipulate

Ryan distinguishes earned confidence from fragile ego. Ego invites flattery, suppresses disagreement, and encourages leaders to surround themselves with less threatening people, creating dysfunctional organisations that miss warnings.

  • Confidence is learned and can tolerate disagreement
  • Ego assumes knowledge, superiority, and exemption from rules
  • Flattery makes egotistical leaders easy to deceive
  • Fear of talented colleagues produces weak teams and missed warnings

Egotistical people are very easy to manipulate because you can flatter them.

Ryan Holiday · 38:30

A humble person, a confident person, they don't mind being disagreed with. They they seek out divergent opinions.

Ryan Holiday · 38:30
#ego#teams#leadership
Hot Take43:30

Entrepreneurship Is Wasted If Profit Is the Only Standard

Ryan argues that ownership gives entrepreneurs unusual control over pay, materials, quality, and impact. Because ethical choices can conflict with the P&L, leadership requires weighing profit alongside the values that made the venture worth pursuing.

  • Owners choose pay, materials, and quality standards
  • Supplier ethics and product quality can create real financial trade-offs
  • Choosing entrepreneurship already rejects some easier or less ethical routes to money
  • Leaders have an obligation to consider positive impact alongside profit

What is the point of doing your own thing if you're not going to do it well and if you're not going to do it…

Ryan Holiday · 44:00

don't let profit be the only thing you're thinking about because you have other values.

Ryan Holiday · 45:30
#ethics#profit#entrepreneurship

Explainer· 1

Explainer19:00

Why Stoicism Fits the Uncertainty of Entrepreneurship

Stoicism begins from the premise that adversity and unpredictability are unavoidable. Its practical value is cultivating inner purpose and values while focusing response on what remains controllable.

  • Life will contain adversity, challenges, and difficulty
  • Inner purpose and values provide continuity through volatility
  • People do not control events but retain influence over their response
  • The philosophy applies naturally to creators and business owners

we don't control what happens, but we control how we respond to what happens.

Ryan Holiday · 19:30

life was unpredictable. life uh would be full of adversity and challenges and difficulties

Ryan Holiday · 19:00
#stoicism#uncertainty#entrepreneurship

Story· 3

Story17:30

Ryan Built Leverage Before Making His Philosophy Pivot

Ryan did not abruptly abandon marketing for ancient philosophy. He first earned money, relationships, a platform, and a publishing track record so he would have enough freedom and leverage to choose his next subject.

  • A desired pivot may require years of position-building
  • Adjacent work can create money, relationships, credibility, and distribution
  • Career transitions that look sudden may be deliberate long-term plans

All of this was setting up, you know, getting in a position where I could have a little bit of power and say about what…

Ryan Holiday · 18:00

I was working towards having the freedom and the leverage to control my own destiny

Ryan Holiday · 18:30
#career#leverage#platform
Story35:00

Marcus Aurelius Kept Learning at the Height of Power

Marcus Aurelius governed through plague, wars, disasters, illness, and family responsibilities without treating power as proof of perfection. Ryan highlights his journaling, continued reading, and late-life visit to a philosopher as evidence that strong leaders remain works in progress.

  • Power did not protect Marcus Aurelius from ordinary and extraordinary hardship
  • Stoic grounding helped prevent absolute power from corrupting him
  • He continued reading, journaling, and seeking instruction
  • Leadership improves when the leader still sees room to learn

He would journal every day. He was still reading.

Ryan Holiday · 36:00

even as an old man, he still saw himself as someone who was learning on the job, who could who had room for improvement, that…

Ryan Holiday · 36:00
#marcus aurelius#leadership#learning
Story47:00

Truman's Atomic-Bomb Decision Exposed Competing Duties

Ryan uses Harry Truman's decision to drop the atomic bomb as a morally consequential leadership case rather than supplying a simple verdict. Truman inherited the project, received unified military advice, and weighed obligations to American soldiers against the lives of people in Japan, while perhaps never fully contemplating another path.

  • Leaders inherit momentum and recommendations from prior systems
  • Failure to contemplate alternatives is itself a decision weakness
  • Moral duties can point toward different affected groups
  • A moral compass is essential when no option is clean

I don't think he ever really thought of not doing it.

Ryan Holiday · 48:00

without a moral compass, without a sense of our obligations and our duties and responsibilities, a country, a nation, the world is is in very…

Ryan Holiday · 49:00
#truman#justice#moral dilemma

Takeaway· 4

Takeaway26:30

The Greatest Empire Is Command of Yourself

External wealth, fame, and authority do not prove that a person governs their own life. Ryan contrasts strategies for building power with the Stoic priority of first controlling moods, desires, and conduct.

  • External power can coexist with deep personal disorder
  • Self-command precedes responsible achievement
  • Moods and desires are leadership concerns, not merely private feelings

the Stoics would say that the greatest empire is command of yourself.

Ryan Holiday · 26:30

How many people are extremely powerful, extremely wealthy, extremely famous, but they're not in control of their own lives?

Ryan Holiday · 27:00
#self-command#power#leadership
Takeaway40:00

Doing Hard Physical Things Trains the Mind to Obey

Ryan uses running, cycling, swimming, and lifting as a practice ground for self-discipline. Repeatedly moving through the part that wants to stop builds the capacity needed for one more call, draft, or interview in professional life.

  • Freedom from a boss creates a need for internal accountability
  • Physical practice provides repeated encounters with resistance
  • The unwilling part of the self can be trained rather than obeyed
  • The same capacity transfers to demanding professional tasks

We treat the body rigorously so that it's not disobedient to the mind.

Ryan Holiday · 40:30

I do hard stuff because I don't want to do hard stuff

Ryan Holiday · 40:30
#discipline#exercise#willpower
Takeaway41:30

Slowing Down Improved Both Performance and Happiness

Looking back on an intense career, Ryan sees deliberateness and perspective as performance advantages. His lesson is not to relax standards but to reduce urgency, high-strung reactions, and the false belief that every event is enormous.

  • Deliberateness can improve results rather than delay them
  • Urgency often exaggerates the significance of current events
  • High standards do not require a high-strung state
  • Young high performers commonly underestimate how early they are

the more I slow things down, the more deliberate I am, the more intentional I am, the better I seem to do, and then also…

Ryan Holiday · 42:00

I don't mean relax my standards. I just mean to not be so highrung.

Ryan Holiday · 42:00
#perspective#pace#performance
Takeaway52:30

Show Up, Control the Inputs, and Release the Outcome

Ryan's closing philosophy is to do the required work each day, give his best, and avoid becoming preoccupied with results outside his control. The stance preserves attention for effort and output while allowing external outcomes to unfold.

  • Daily conduct is more controllable than eventual outcomes
  • Showing up and giving your best are repeatable inputs
  • Outcome fixation can distract from the work that produces outcomes

I try to do what I'm supposed to do every day. I try to show up, try to work hard. I try to give my…

Ryan Holiday · 52:30

I just focus on what I control, which is what I'm putting out there, what I'm putting in there, and I let the rest take…

Ryan Holiday · 52:30
#control#process#outcomes