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William Cohan08 September 2023

William Cohan: The Rise and Fall of America’s Most Iconic Company, General Electric

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster30:30

GE Was Not Simply Founded by Thomas Edison

The familiar founding story overstates Edison's role in the company created in 1892. GE emerged from a merger of Edison General Electric and the more profitable Thomson-Houston, driven by financiers, and Charles Coffin—not Edison—ran the combined business.

  • Edison had moved on and was not CEO when the merger occurred
  • J. P. Morgan was the principal owner of Edison General Electric
  • Thomson-Houston produced similar revenue with greater profitability
  • Charles Coffin became leader of the merged company

it was formed by a merger between two companies one of which was Thomas Edison's company called Edison General Electric

William Cohan · 30:30

Thomas Edison had pretty much checked out and moved on to another project

William Cohan · 31:00
#ge history#thomas edison#mergers

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take23:00

Content Creators Should Own Equity in What They Build

Cohan left Vanity Fair to become a founding partner in Puck partly because its writers receive equity. He sees that ownership as a correction to a media model where the people creating the core product are poorly paid and excluded from the value they help create.

  • Puck treats writers as founding value creators
  • Equity aligns creators with the company's long-term outcome
  • Cohan distinguishes ownership in books from traditional non-book journalism
  • The model responds to decades of frustration with low reporter compensation

the writers were given equity and Puck and I'm a founding partner with Equity

William Cohan · 23:00

we are the content creators we are the people who are building this a company and you know if it if it works out we…

William Cohan · 23:30
#creator equity#media#ownership
Hot Take46:00

Neutron Jack Used Layoffs to Shock GE Out of Complacency

Welch believed GE had become bureaucratic and bloated, and he used large-scale layoffs to remove people he viewed as unproductive and to signal urgency to everyone who remained. Cohan presents the tactic as an attention-forcing mechanism, while noting the reputation that earned Welch the name Neutron Jack.

  • Welch saw bureaucracy and low motivation as obstacles to rebuilding GE
  • Layoffs were intended to change the behavior of remaining employees
  • The approach valued ambitious go-getters and rejected organizational complacency
  • The tactic made fear part of the performance system

he thought gee had just gotten way too bureaucratic and Bloated and uh you know he sort of needed to break it to build it…

William Cohan · 46:30

there's no better way to do that kind of thing than to fire a bunch of people because that gets people's attention

William Cohan · 46:30
#layoffs#organizational change#jack welch

Explainer· 4

Explainer35:00

Why Electricity Adoption Was Slower Than Its Benefits Suggest

Electricity transformed daily life, but adoption was restrained by understandable fear. Early systems could cause explosions and fires, so every visible failure gave neighboring households and businesses a strong reason to wait despite the technology's extraordinary potential.

  • Transformative utility does not guarantee immediate trust
  • Early technical failures were dangerous and highly visible
  • Public demonstrations helped make the unfamiliar technology tangible
  • Adoption accelerated gradually as infrastructure and confidence improved

the adoption was slow because people were very wary of it

William Cohan · 35:00

the early adopters uh uh things blew up uh there were fires

William Cohan · 36:00
#electricity#technology adoption#innovation
Explainer38:00

How Jack Welch Made a Conglomerate Feel Essential

Conglomerates once occupied a central place in institutional portfolios, and GE was the premier example: highly rated, in the Dow, and active across major industries. Welch reinforced that status by cultivating both research analysts and media until investors felt they had to own the stock.

  • GE combined technological reach with financial credibility
  • Its AAA rating and Dow membership made it a market bellwether
  • Welch actively managed relationships with analysts and media
  • The conglomerate era has largely ended as GE separates into focused companies

there was a time on Wall Street when conglomerates were very much in fashion and investment managers felt they needed to own them

William Cohan · 39:30

there was nobody better than Jack Welch at uh you know making GE really sexy and something that uh you know investors had to own

William Cohan · 40:00
#conglomerates#jack welch#investor relations
Explainer43:30

The Three Strengths Behind Jack Welch's Rise

Cohan attributes Welch's ascent to a rare combination of results, communication, and political skill. Welch commercialized GE's plastics work, repeatedly beat his budgets, gave strong presentations, and navigated the demanding internal contest for the chief executive role.

  • Commercial results gave Welch credibility beyond personal charisma
  • Budget performance demonstrated repeatable execution
  • Presentation and communication skills increased organizational influence
  • Political intelligence was essential to reaching the top of GE

he had uh fabulous uh people skills he had great IQ great EQ um uh great political skills

William Cohan · 43:30

he he he he uh you know was able to set budgets and exceed uh the budget that he had Set

William Cohan · 44:30
#leadership#career advancement#jack welch
Explainer56:30

The Leap of Faith That Separated Ownership From Management

Cohan reflects on the historical shift that allowed founders and dispersed shareholders to own companies without operating them personally. Incentivized professional managers could run the enterprise, sometimes better than its creator, while founders pursued other interests and retained equity.

  • Founding and operating require different strengths
  • Equity allowed founders to benefit without remaining chief executive
  • Professional incentives helped align hired managers with owners
  • The model enabled companies with millions of dispersed shareholders

they didn't have to continue to run these companies to benefit from what they had started and created

William Cohan · 56:30

let somebody else run these things uh who might even be better at it than they uh were or or would be

William Cohan · 57:00
#professional management#founders#ownership

Story· 5

Story04:00

The MBA Plan Failed—and Still Opened Wall Street

Cohan pursued a Columbia MBA expecting it to unlock the Wall Street Journal after early investigative-reporting success. The newspaper still rejected him, but a booming 1987 hiring market gave him an unexpected route into GE Capital despite having no finance experience.

  • The original goal was a reporting job at the Wall Street Journal
  • An MBA created an adjacent opportunity when the intended plan failed
  • Market timing mattered because Wall Street urgently needed junior staff
  • Cohan entered leveraged-buyout finance without prior practical experience

if I have a journalism degree investigative reporting Awards and I've got an MBA uh from Colombia that uh you know the journal will have…

William Cohan · 04:30

literally all you had to do uh was be able to breathe to get a job on Wall Street

William Cohan · 05:30
#career pivot#mba#wall street
Story09:00

Lazard's Prestige Came With Byzantine Politics

Cohan was drawn to Lazard because it was selective, private, small, and regularly won major deals. Inside, the lack of structure and opaque political culture made the celebrated firm both fascinating and deeply frustrating to navigate.

  • Scarcity and rejection increased Lazard's appeal
  • The small partnership won work beyond its apparent scale
  • There was little formal onboarding or human-resources support
  • Internal politics shaped the employee experience as much as deal quality

literally a firm that was punching above its weight on a regular basis it worked on all the best deals

William Cohan · 10:30

politics were quite uh uh Byzantine

William Cohan · 10:30
#lazard#culture#investment banking
Story13:30

Being Blackballed Pushed Cohan Toward an Owned Career

After JPMorgan Chase fired and, he says, blackballed him, Cohan decided he could no longer leave his livelihood entirely in other people's hands. He returned to journalism through a self-initiated book proposal about Lazard, turning an involuntary exit into a bestselling second career.

  • The firing arrived with two young children and no clear route back
  • Control over future work became the central career criterion
  • A book proposal offered a path that did not require a newspaper job
  • The resulting book won major recognition and opened further writing opportunities

what can I do that is within my own control

William Cohan · 14:30

I can't put my uh life or career in the hands of other people anymore

William Cohan · 14:30
#career change#ownership#writing
Story32:00

GE Nearly Failed One Year After Its Formation

The newly combined General Electric nearly entered bankruptcy during the 1893 financial crisis because it could not service roughly $10 million of debt. J. P. Morgan enabled a discounted debt repurchase, after which GE maintained a fortress balance sheet for decades—until GE Capital changed its risk profile.

  • A major financial crisis followed almost immediately after the merger
  • Debt service, not technology, threatened the young company
  • Buying back debt at a discount prevented bankruptcy
  • The experience preceded decades of conservative credit strength

this General Electric almost went into bankruptcy because it had like 10 million of debt that it couldn't make payments on

William Cohan · 32:30

for the next you know whatever uh 70 80 years uh ge had a fortress balance sheet uh triple a credit rating

William Cohan · 33:00
#bankruptcy#balance sheet#ge capital
Story60:00

Jeff Immelt's First Full Day as CEO Was September 11

Immelt formally took over GE on September 10, 2001, immediately confronting losses and disruption across businesses tied to aviation, insurance, employees, and NBC. Cohan treats that context fairly, but argues that a later sequence of proactive strategic mistakes—not the crisis alone—destroyed much of GE's value and stability.

  • GE was directly exposed to multiple consequences of the attacks
  • Corporate regulation and Wall Street changed sharply after September 11
  • Immelt inherited an exceptionally strong but complex company
  • Cohan distinguishes external shocks from management's subsequent decisions

his first day in the office uh his CEO was September 10th 2001. the next day was September 11th

William Cohan · 60:00

what I document in the book is just sort of a series of unfortunate decisions that Jeff made

William Cohan · 62:00
#jeff immelt#succession#ge decline

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway17:00

Seventeen Years Inside Wall Street Became a Reporting Edge

Cohan argues that his long banking career gives him unusually broad knowledge of how Wall Street works. That operating experience helps him identify the right questions, detect evasions, and write with authority that a short outside view would not provide.

  • Domain experience can compound with an earlier craft
  • Knowing industry mechanics improves questioning and source evaluation
  • The combination of banking and journalism became hard to replicate
  • Authority came from sustained practical exposure rather than credentials alone

I do really understand how Wall Street works there's no question I understand pretty much all aspects of it at this point

William Cohan · 18:00

I know the questions to ask and I know you know when you're bullshitting me

William Cohan · 19:30
#skill stacking#journalism#expertise
Takeaway65:00

GE's Pieces Matter, but the Old Superpower Is Gone

GE is separating healthcare, power, and aviation into focused businesses, each with substantial real-world importance. Cohan expects the jet-engine operation to remain a technological jewel and sees major demand for power and healthcare, but does not expect the pieces to recreate GE's former global stature.

  • Healthcare had already begun trading separately
  • GE Vernova carries forward the original power business
  • The jet-engine business remains highly respected and technologically advanced
  • Valuable successor companies do not equal restoration of the old conglomerate

each one of those businesses is important in its own way

William Cohan · 66:00

I just don't think uh any of it's going to amount to uh What uh ge was once upon a time

William Cohan · 66:30
#ge breakup#aviation#energy